I lived next to the Barrs in the Towers. He was so nice but I did get the impression that he wasn’t a forceful man. At the time I looked up to him as being meek.
When Barbara says he was considered wimpy I remember is handshake. Definitely not what you would call mans man. I always assumed he had a stroke or something because of the way he held his hands. I never dealt with him other than being neighbors but I never got the impression he would stand up for much of anything. One GB Helper told me Barr was faithful but the Org needs ‘Operations’ men. And Barr was not Operations.
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One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inon may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.
he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.
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More of my life, thanks for reading and helping me
by BonaFide ini was a regular pioneer since age 16. ministerial servant at 20. ministerial training school at 23 assigned to south america.
i was told i was the youngest missionary in the world among jw's.
elder at 24, circuit overseer at 26. for those who know the c.o.
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Bonafide,
I may be biased but let your family make excuses for now. I will until I have some sort of support structure that is not dependent on my prevouis life.
To be honest I read comments on this forum from time to time. Every time I did I felt like I was going to puke. Even today I’m a little uneasy.
Also every time I hear negative comments about JW’s they feel like fight’n words. Just using the term “JW’s” is hard, it sounds unrespectful.
The only tool I have to feel like less of a traitor is humor. I know I should discuss some sincere biblical insight that maybe the Society has wrong. But instead I need to ask questions like:
That girl in your Circuit, were they perky?C. T.
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One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inon may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.
he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.
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For gubberningbody, LOL
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One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inon may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.
he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.
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Bonafide,
I totally understand. When I as at Bethel I had a father figure who was on a few committees. He arranged without my knowledge to have me transferred to his congregation and table. Over time he really made a sincere effort to groom me and show me the ropes. The sad thing is that it probably made me cynical over time since I heard a little too much about day to day Org business. If I had just been assigned to laundry I would probably still be there today.
AllTimeJeff,
Your comment made me think of the first time I got in trouble at Bethel (Yes, I got in trouble more than once). I had to enter an area that required a key, vs. just flashing your badge at the building entrance. Anyway I had back pain because of a minor injury and happened to be lugging a full backpack along with a large box full of stuff. A sister carrying what I could call a cocktail purse was ahead of me. Once she got to the door she just stopped. I thought “Are you kidding me!” Tradition was that brothers opened the door. But here I am carrying half my body weight and she expects me to set everything down to open the door. Of course I said “Would it be too much of a bother for you to pull your key out and open the door?” She just stood her ground. No less than 20mins later I got called in to visit a Vice-President. After about an hour I understood that she was “somebody’s” wife and that I need to appreciate the sister’s status as a “weaker vessel”. But inside I was screaming “BUT I OPENED THE DOOR!” -
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One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inon may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.
he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.
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Hello Barbara,
Do you know why he was removed from Australia?
Bonafide,Your comment is the only remotely positive comment I have ever heard about Jaracz. He was definitely my least favorite GB. In many ways he was just a jerk. At the time I told myself he must be under allot of pressure. But looking back he was just an asshole.
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What crazy demonstrations did you see on the Service Meeting?
by BonaFide ini had a couple of pretty good ones, i thought.. my first one was theocratic news.
i know a lot of congregations that did this one.
we had a long table facing the audience, and we gave the "theocratic news" from the km as if it were a tv news broadcast.
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My favorite was a Brother who had been counseled to kind of ‘spice things up a little”. He was extremely boring on stage.
His next talk involved something like ‘Proper tools at the proper time’ or something. During his talk he pulled tools out of his suit. First it was pair of tweezers. Then a small screwdriver out of his pocket. Then a large allen wrench. Then an even bigger wrench out of his jacket. Out of nowhere the biggest socket wrench I had ever seen appeared. Then from under his sleeve he somehow pulled out a hack saw.
By this time everyone was either on edge or cracking up. Then the coup de grace. He reached behind and underneath his jacket and pulled, out of his pants mind you, a sledgehammer. Half the congregation was stunned. The other half started uncontrollably laughing. One brother went into laughing fits and was asked to go outside when he couldn’t stop. -
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Is Anybody on Facebook?
by homeschool inhey there....i'm taking a leap here.
i really enjoy reading all the threads on here and think you're swell folks.
but with all the anonymity, its still kinda lonely to not "know" who you are.
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I just opened a Facebook account. But I have no friends though
I met some people at work and they all have Facebook accounts. But I don't want to invite them and seem like a total loser. They all have 100's of friends. I have zero.
PM me if you want to be my friend. I'm also loooking for people that dont want to be my friend but are willing to help a brother out. If you have time you can also post comments like:
"Hey Bro, remember when we went to Cancun! That was awsome!" vs. "Hey Bro, remember when we worked that unassigned territory! That was awsome!"
Or if your willing I'm also looking for a Facebook "Wingwomen." Basically you can post flirtatious comments on my Wall to give the impression that I actually have a active social love life. Doesnt matter where you are or how old. There are some Olive Garden gift certificates in it for you if necessary.
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Does the Governing Body require a minimum number of members/quorum?
by yadda yadda 2 inthe governing body presently comprises nine members.
some decades ago it was up to about 18 members, i think.
how low can the number go?
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There really is no max or min limit on the GB. If a seat is vacated that does not automatically trigger a vote to add someone. The problem they do have is finding replacements, it’s a dwindling gene pool. There are only so many anointed, trusted, men that have the full time service credentials. In addition these candidates must have proven that they are truly “Company” men.
In the early 90’s non-anointed “Helpers” started taking over responsibilities that had been exclusively the responsibility of anointed ones. They are called “Given Ones” or “Nethinim”. The bulk of the work is now done by them and other non-anointed.
As far as power goes the GB of today is not as influential as it used to be. Some because of health are not that involved. Out of the remainder some are really not that bright. Then a couple more are not really equipped with enough education or real life experience to contribute to any major decision. Over time I think we’ll see a continued slow shift to the Helpers. They have the numbers and the brains. This would leave the GB with being more of a figure head group whose only power is it veto any doctrinal changes. -
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A LOOK INSIDE BETHEL LIFE, THE ORGANIZATION BEHIND THE NAME
by Bethelite Elder inwhen i first came to bethel, the going reassurance was that if you stayed more than 5 years, you would be considered permanent.
many of the bethelites bought into the idea and stayed many years.
however, a few years back they had a test of faith.
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Personally I have no sympathy for any Bethelites getting laid off, and here’s why ("Bethelite Elder" excluded of course):
There a many in Bethel who are very earnest and believe in what they are doing. Those Bethelites are going to view this as a relief. Jehovah has lifted their burden. They can now go out and find new homes and settle down with a new wife and maybe have a few kids.
Others are going to view this as a new door being opened by Jehovah. They can now go out into the field and embrace their new assignments. They know $600 a month isn’t much but they will put their trust in Jehovah, and he will provide. The will up build up others by noting that garment workers in Bangladesh only make 22 cents an hour. They will give quaint little personal experiences at Circuit Assembly’s about they happened upon a free car, cheap housing, clothes, dishes (“Wasn’t Brother so-and-so’s story amazing! The WORLDLY person just gave him free dishes!”)
And then there are the rest of them. The sycophants who climbed the corporate ladder. The ones who left no back unstabbed, no screw unturned. You would notice a Brother studying during lunch so you would point out that he didn’t volunteer to work on Sunday. You would notice that a Brother volunteered to work Sunday and then point out he must be spiritually weak for missing so many meetings. You wouldn’t mention these things in passing. You would go out of your way to contact his table head or his department head. Always out of brotherly love of course. Funny how your brotherly love always focused on those who were up for the same position of responsibility that you wanted. But you got what you wanted didn’t you? You got your “power”. You sat around day dreaming about how much power you would have, “I’m floor coordinator in Shipping, which must mean I’ll be in charge of what was once Canada in the new system”. I don’t want to name names; you know who you are (Lance, Tim, Rich and many others.)
But don’t worry you’ll be alright. You see the skills you have mastered are skills many Worldly people only wished they had. The ability to manipulate, maneuver and control. The ability to spread disinformation and tear down others. These skills will serve you well in whatever organization you latch onto next.
But feel free to visit websites like this one in the mean time. They will be sympathetic to your plight. You’ll find many people that will soothe your ego and agree that you are innocent “victims”. And that somehow you deserve more than $600 a month. This is clearly salary unbefitting a future Prince of the new system.
Personally I hope you choke on your $600 a month.
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IQ
by is there help out there inwhen i was younger i remerber i was tested in school and my iq score was 98. a wile back i google iq and one site listed what iq score of 98 was only good fore working in wall-mart.
so i decided to retake the test on line and cane out with a score of 105 which put me in a higher work cadory, service tech etc.
now i sleep a lot better at night knowing i will not have to spend the rest of my life working in wall-mart..
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I know a Witness that makes over 100K a year working for Walmart. It doesnt matter what your job is, it's what you put into it.
